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Emerging from the Rubble

The Rt. Rev. Martin Barahona, Bishop of the Episcopal / Anglican Church of El Salvador

An interview with the Right Rev. Martín Barahona, Bishop of the Episcopal/Anglican Church of El Salvador

Richard Bower
Martín, El Salvador has just been through almost two months of earthquakes and aftershocks, with immense damage and loss of life. As pastor of your people, and as a citizen of this country, what has this experience been like for you? What have been your impressions of all of this, and how has this tragedy affected you?

Martin Barahona
Many thanks, Padre Ricardo, for being with us at this time in El Salvador. In the first place, the three earthquakes have deepened the poverty and misery that we have lived with here in this country. And of course it has greatly affected me personally. It has made me very sad, this situation here in our country. On the other hand, in the midst of all of this, I want to find the resources necessary to help effect a change among our people here in El Salvador.

The structures and logistic capacity of this country have fallen apart, like houses in the earthquake.

The structures and logistic capacity of this country have fallen apart, like houses in the earthquake. There has been a huge cost in the damage of social and economic life in this country. It makes me very sad. It is very difficult to repair this kind of damage.

And, of course, for me personally this has brought many, many challenges in to my life and ministry. As a pastor I have felt powerless much of the time. When I visit places heavily damaged and I see people with their arms crossed in resignation, unable to do anything, and when I see my government incapable of responding in any meaningful way, it is very frustrating and sad for me.

Nevertheless, I would like to say that there is something that is not lost, a small light in every person; and for this reason I remain hopeful. I have not lost faith or hope. Even through all of the damage and rubble, we need to find ways to raise up our people

But most of all just now I want to express how grateful I am, how important and helpful it has been to have you here with me, sharing in these difficult moments of our life, but also in the renewal of hope among our people.

A New Spirit of Unity Between the Churches

RAB
Martin, in the face of all of this, what are some of your hopes for the future of the Episcopal/Anglican Church in this country? I think that within every tragedy there can be elements for a new birth. Do you think that through the suffering and pain of your people there are signs of a renewal, a new birth for the Salvadoran people, and for the Anglican Church here?

Typical Campesina Kitchen, Chalatenango, El Salvador

MB
Well, I have a great hope, a vision perhaps, that through this experience we will learn how to struggle and work together, united for the long term. Many people have reminded me, especially those from the churches, that during the long civil war churches worked together, united. How sad it has been, since the signing of the Peace Accords in 1992, that the churches have ceased working together, every one being concerned only about his or her own things. In this moment there is a new spirit of unity, with the exception of our "older brother," the Roman Catholic Church.

I remember that a couple of years ago an official from the Lutheran Church in Germany came to El Salvador to talk with all the churches about how to respond to the needs of the people in El Salvador, after the war. Almost all the churches were gathered together for this meeting. But the Lutheran official remarked, how sad that the leaders of the Roman Catholic Church did not come to be with us. "Where is your older brother?" he asked us.

The Roman Catholic Church is the largest church here in El Salvador, with the most members - there has grown in recent days a bit of an opening, a willingness on the part of the RC Church, to work with us. There is a kind of special moment now which is making possible a new kind of unity and cooperation. In spite of the many fears the RC Church has in ecumenical relationships, many of these fears are dissipating now. And so I have a hope for the betterment of relationships with our older brother.

There have been good relationships among the other churches here, the Lutherans, the Reformed churches, and the Baptists; but I am hoping to see these relationships deepen in the coming months because of our important work together.

And I hope that our Episcopal/Anglican Church might have a stronger presence here. We have always been present and visible in our commitment to the country, but I hope this presence among all our people can be strengthened. I hope that people in this country can learn that we are here in order to serve the people in the name of Christ, without being concerned who is a member of our church, and who is not. And so I dream of a rebirth among our people and churches, with a new understanding and commitment, and a deeper sense of unity, confronting together the national shame of crime, violence, and individualism... so much that is evil in this country.

RAB
As I understand it, after the end of the 12 years of civil war, there developed in this country a strong individualistic culture, where people thought only about themselves. Do you think, Martín, that through this current tragedy that there might be born again a new sense of community, of concern for others, a formation of mutuality and solidarity, a more human society?

War creates a culture of violence, hate, retribution, where people are identified as friends or enemies. So my hope is that, with this shared experience of a natural disaster, we might not only build new houses, but also a new concept of what it means to be members of a shared society and culture.

MB
In the first place, yes, this is one of my hopes. I think that a natural tragedy, such as we have experienced, hurricanes and earthquakes, remind us of our common experience, human beings suffering together under the weight of natural disasters. This is one of the differences from our experience during the war. War creates a culture of violence, hate, retribution, where people are identified as friends or enemies. So my hope is that, with this shared experience of a natural disaster, we might not only build new houses, but also a new concept of what it means to be members of a shared society and culture, as sisters and brothers. This is my hope, and I have already seen people, neighbors, talking and working together in ways that haven't bee true in recent years. At least I hope all of this might help us begin the social, public conversation that is needed, both in our neighborhoods, and in the country.

Our Government and Non-Governmental Organizations Are Corrupted

RAB
What can you say about the role of the government, and of the non-governmental organizations in their response to the crisis here in the country, their response to the state of emergency among the people, after the three earthquakes of January and February? And how do the Salvadoran people feel about the government and these organizations?

MB
I would like to say that about a year ago there were a series of polls taken nationally, and one of the questions was, "What institutions in the country deserve the most trust from the people?" And the people interviewed responded almost unanimously, that the churches were the only institutions worthy of trust. This gives us joy, as churches, but also a challenge, a great responsibility. Unfortunately, and I must say this, that the people do not have any confidence in our country, our government. Our current style of government, being a government of ARENA and not of the people, is creating a kind of decadence, a growing corruption. [ARENA is the acronym for Alianza Republicana Nacional, a rightist political party founded in the 1970s by Roberto D'Aubuson, the right-wing political leader implicated in the assassination of Archbishop Oscar Romero. ARENA has been the ruling party since the late 1980s, and is currently led by President Francisco Flores.], There are no proposals from our government for the betterment of the country. There is a loss of leadership. I'm sorry to say that our President is not prepared to lead, leaving the government to deteriorate more and more.

San Marcos Izalco Community House, Earthquake Damage

And what is even more sad is that the opposition, the FMLN [Farabundo Marti para la Liberacion Nacional, a leftist political party, which developed from the left-wing revolutionary guerrilla army of the 1970s and 80s], doesn't have any clear proposals or direction for the country either. It is consumed by internal struggles, focused on itself, each sector focused on its own interests. And so in general there exists an "orphaned" leadership, that is to say, no meaningful leadership on the national level. And for this reason, the people have no trust in any of the national institutions, not in the legislature, nor the presidency, nor in the courts, because there is too much corruption in the system.

Let me say something else. Among the non-governmental organizations (NGOs), there is also much corruption. There are 1,800 NGOs in this small country. It's insane. Much competition, each NGO trying to defend its own interests. Obviously there are exceptions, but they are few, I have to say. We are very frustrated by all of this.

RAB
In the face of the deep lack of trust of the people in their government and in the hundreds of ineffective NGOs, I have heard people express concern for the growing frustration among the people. Some have spoken of possibilities for popular violent reactions, if after the earthquakes there are no meaningful responses and help. The people, being fed up with all of this, may explode in the streets. What do you think about this?

MB
Well, I don't believe that in this moment there will be a violent uprising, because this has been a method that has failed in the history of our country. In addition it would be very difficult in this moment to find help outside the country to sustain a movement of conflict or violent opposition.

I think that for all of this, the role of the churches is becoming very important. I would like to say to you that our President, [in] trying to face the needs brought on by the earthquake [and] being powerless to do much himself, has created, in addition to the National Emergency Council, another organization called the Council of Solidarity - yet another organization, which like the first is not functioning. The government, in its paralysis, finally declared that the churches are officially authorized to be agencies for responding to emergencies and for the rebuilding of the country. That was a declaration by the government, one of its better decisions! This means that the churches will be playing a decisive role in the country. It may well be through the churches that a long term national vision and process of renovation will come, not through the government. We want not just to build new houses for the homeless, which is the concern of the government. As churches we want to participate in an integral reconstruction, in which all sectors of society participate, and in which human values are nourished, and the total needs of the people - education, health, organization and communitarian values [cooperative communities, where the collective good is valued more than the individual good] - will be addressed and provided for.

I think that people understand that no movement that uses violence will accomplish anything, and that the vision and commitments of the churches are the best way to struggle for the future. Our civil war did little good for our country. It helped create a culture of violence and individualism, fractures and disunity, without solving many problems. We all recognize that the war not only destroyed physical things, but produced a moral destruction too.

RAB
We have talked about the role of the government and of the NGOs, in this time of tragedy, and in the role of the churches. Another sector of society, very powerful, is the commercial sector, the sector with much power and resource: global industries and banks. What is the role of the commercial sector in this country now, and what should be its responsibilities?

Sign placed in Las Colinas, site of the landslide that buried hundreds of houses and people. The sign reads: "This was the home of my wonderful family (then the members are named) buried. Your husband and father, Miguel Angel Ortega. They will live within me the rest of my life. Into God's hands I commend them."

MB
I think that in the sector of private enterprise there are people of good will. But unfortunately there are groups with much power who are the most recalcitrant, who don't really care much about the people or about the state of this country. In this moment the strongest group is the financial sector, the banks, the global investors, with little commitment to this country. What needs to happen is that the banks and investors need to become more flexible, less rigid, in order to be of any help in the long run for the redevelopment of this country. They need to be less greedy and self focused. They need to have flexible policies and commitment, for example, toward the agricultural sector of our country, making available affordable credits both for agriculture as well as for growing industries, especially for small businesses. Interest rates for loans are some of the highest in the hemisphere. Also the most wealthy sectors of the country need to address some of the social needs of their employees, considering, for example, establishing some kind of minimum daily salary. Again, I want to say that in the economic sector there are individuals of good will, but the institutions and structures are very closed and rigid, unresponsive to the national needs. We hope for changes in this area.

Fundación Cristosal: A Vision for Hope

RAB
Martin, let's change the subject a bit, and talk about the Fundación Cristosal [founded in July 2000 as a 501(c)3 not-for-profit organization]. What are your hopes and dreams for Cristosal as it seeks to strengthen the Episcopal/Anglican Church here in El Salvador, and what message would you like to send to the small but growing community of people connected to Cristosal?

MB
Well, we have never talked, I think, about how the name Cristosal came to be. But in my mind it points to the desire and commitment that more and more Christ (Cristo) will be the power and the guiding influence in our country; that Christ as the Son of God might help us in the needed changes, the rebirths of our people. The most important message Christ brings to us, a message of hope and of compassion, is that we are called to serve this people, no matter who or where they are.

My vision and concern for Cristosal was that, as it was born, it would need to grow up, mature in its vision and mission, become adult and give birth to other daughters and sons. I give thanks to God that much of this vision has been realized, largely because of the earthquakes of these past two months. Cristosal was not born like other great institutions, but was born in a time of pain, maturing rapidly because of our tragedy

In our country there are not many regulations or rules that would either help or hinder you. The call is to come, be with us, bring resources if you have them, be a part of bringing Christ to this country again, bringing the good and hopeful news of the Reign of God to us. Work with us. Struggle with us. Let us touch you too. This, for me, is the dream of Cristosal.

The reality that there are circumstances of tragedy and difficult times remind us that human life and creation are fragile, and that these things are basically circumstantial.

The reality that there are circumstances of tragedy and difficult times remind us that human life and creation are fragile, and that these things are basically circumstantial. They happen to the strongest and to the most simple of us.

I want to say to people in the United States and in Canada, "Don't be afraid to come here. We all must change, be converted again and again, discovering new ways to live our life and faith. This is what I think is the most important mission of Cristosal, to invite people to walk together without fear. And if in the process we discover things that need to be changed in our lives, then we need to change. Come here to be changed, not to maintain what you've always lived or believed.

The U.S. Domination of Central America
RAB

Martín, many of us in the United States have some grave concerns about the foreign policy of our government toward Central America, especially as it relates to military interests and to drug trafficking. El Salvador is experiencing a greater presence of U.S. military, in recent weeks with the establishing of an air base near the Capital City, and the increasing number of U.S. military assigned to El Salvador. Another aspect of the foreign policy of both countries, is the recent "dollarization" of the Salvador economy, something that appears to be a new kind of economic colonialism. What thoughts do you have about the foreign policies of El Salvador and the United States?

MB
I think there have been many changes in recent years here in El Salvador. For example, in the past there have been no projects of the Salvadoran military that have received any support from the great majority of our people. This has meant that the Salvadoran military have had to look toward new reasons for being, new directions. They have been developing a role for national service, work projects on the infrastructure, developing useful technologies that could be at the service of the country. So there is a new focus of studies these days at the military academies. More science and engineering, and less battle training.

Where there has been little change in the military is in the United States. It is a very powerful country, one that often believes that it must maintain its power through military force. The focus always seem to be to make sure there is no other military force stronger than that of the U.S. This is still the logic of the U.S. military. At the same time the U.S. is feeling vulnerable in its security from various experiences with terrorism. In many ways we here in El Salvador have moved beyond fear of terrorism, which we had enough of during the civil war. It is even growing obsolete to talk of the Right or of the Left in any ideological sense. That has mostly passed from us.

I think that the United States has been looking for an excuse for a military presence here. We can't offer terrorism, so the U.S. uses the excuse of the drug traffic to establish new military bases in our region: in Guatemala, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Honduras, and Costa Rica. In this moment the U.S. is having a hard time establishing a presence in Panama. The U.S. thinks it has to control drug traffic. As many people have been saying, if there is a great business in drug trafficking, the U.S. ought to look at their own home, where the demand is, where the market is. That is where the "war" should be. One North American told me recently that we should welcome the new U.S. forces presence in El Salvador, because they will bring many resources to help our people. Like the drug traffic issue, I think this is merely an excuse. The real motive, it seems to me, is to maintain military control, hegemony, in this hemisphere. It is an expression of the sense of insecurity in the North.

Here in El Salvador it is almost impossible to conceive of a military armed for combat. A totally new conception of military is emerging, a new generation of officers, professionals in service of the country. We have moved a long way in turning a very aggressive military into a resource in service to our people.

As I said earlier, here in El Salvador it is almost impossible to conceive of a military armed for combat. A totally new conception of military is emerging, a new generation of officers, professionals in service of the country. For example, when the tragic earthquakes happened, the government asked the military to be in charge of offering help. We have moved a long way in turning a very aggressive military into a resource in service to our people. It’s interesting that the national organization that has led the most in the changes in our country after the signing of the Peace Accords has been the military. They have led the way for change. Not too long ago, after the Guatemalan Peace Accords, some Guatemalan military come to talk with the Salvadoran military about how to function after peace accords have been signed. After listening to the Salvadorans a while, the Guatemalans left. They wanted nothing to do with the kinder, gentler Salvadoran military. They wanted to maintain the more aggressive military model. That is an example of the changes we’ve experienced.

I would like to say something about the "dollarization" of our country. Since January first of this year 2001 the government by decree established the dollar as the currency of the country, replacing the colon.

Many people have commented over this change. In fact, some in the legislature believe that it is unconstitutional. Basically the law stated that the dollar, along with the colon, is legal currency in this country. In practice the banks are destroying the colones when they receive them, leaving us only with the dollar. I don’t have much nostalgia for Cristobal Colón. His so-called discovery of our lands brought only 500 years of suffering and oppression for most of our people. So much for naming our currency after him!

In reality our economy has for decades been dominated by the United States. That’s nothing new. In a sense the dollarization of our economy has been the reality for years. For me it doesn’t make sense to say that we, Salvadorans, are surrendering our sovereignty by this dollarization. We lost our economic sovereignty many years ago. We live in a time of the internationalization of culture, economics and business. It is hard for a small country like ours to talk about nationalism in any meaningful way in an epoch of globalization. Even our communication media -- telephone, e-mail, television -- all are basically globalized, with major dominance by the United States and Europe.

We can talk about globalization in terms of the dominance of four areas of economic power: in the East, dominated by China; in the Middle East, dominated by powerful oil countries; in Europe, by the Common Market; and in the Western Hemisphere, by the United States, with the strongest currency in the world.

I want to be as positive as I can be in this complicated situation. I can’t say really whether the dollarization of our country is good or bad. Perhaps using the dollar here will protect us against serious inflation, although the colon has been stable for a number of years. It is important to say that the social system here in our county will not change just because we use the dollar. I would be 100% in agreement with the dollarization of our country, if this were accompanied by major economic changes that would benefit the majority of our people. For example, if the dollarization of the country came with a law that stabilized prices for several years, it would prevent what is now happening, that the price for the canasta basica, the minimum daily amount of food a family needs, has been growing since the change in currency. Prices these days are all over the place, a market poco loco. Another law that would be just, in a time of economic change, is to establish a minimum hourly wage, to protect the poorest of the worker against changes they are powerless to control. I say hourly, because much of our work force works part time at several jobs daily, and need hourly protection to be more effective and productive.

One can point to the Republic of Panama, where you and I both lived for a while, and where the dollar has been used for a long time. The cost of living in Panama is one of the lowest in Central America. The dollar has not adversely affected Panama. There is poverty in Panama; but there does not exist the deep of misery that we find here.

RAB
Martín, you don’t fear adverse control by the United States through the dollar, as was the case in Panama? During the period from 1987-89, when the U.S. was in conflict with the government of Panama, the U.S. put pressure on the country by establishing an embargo on the dollar: no dollars could legally enter the country. Might that not be a fear here some day in El Salvador?

When the United States economically comes down with a cold, we here in El Salvador catch pneumonia.

MB
For me it is really all the same. The U.S., as the strongest economy, already controls the smaller economies, such as ours. When the United States economically comes down with a cold, we here in El Salvador catch pneumonia.

The Struggle to Develop an Autonomous Church

RAB
Martín, you have been Bishop here for almost nine years. As you reflect over this time, what have you learned, what are your dreams and priorities for your vocation in the future, what changes do you want to make in your life and in the life of the church?

MB
Let me say that when I began here as a new Bishop of El Salvador, obviously without any preparation in being a bishop, I found a diocese that did not have the experience of the normal structures of a diocese. As is the experience of anyone who comes to begin a new ministry, a new leadership, many things have to change. Now after nine years of ministry I have discovered many things that I will never be able to change. What I have tried to do is to create structures for a diocese, at times from scratch, that will enable the next bishop to receive a strong, well-structured diocese to carry on future ministry.

When I arrived here I found a church that basically functioned like a parish. That is not to say that there were no people working hard here. In fact there were and have been many valiant leaders here, lay and ordained. But they were working with another model, perhaps with the model needed at that time. There was not much experience in being an Episcopal/Anglican Church in the traditional sense. Our leadership has been to trying to develop our own tradition of being Anglicans. This means a lot more work for us, and the need to be creative in the process. When we try to organize an activity, for example, we can’t say, let’s see what we did in the past. In many ways, there is no past to reflect upon in being a diocese in the church, let alone in functioning as a National Church within a Central American Province. When I talk about the need to develop structures for the diocese, I don’t mean to say that we haven’t accomplished anything. Perhaps the most we can do is set the foundation, the base for a future development of our church. We have to dedicate much of our energy and resources in the education and formation of our people and of our leadership, lay and ordained. We live in a country where, because of the civil war, education has suffered greatly. This is a long range need and process. There is no quick repairing of the lack of strong educational formation.

We have to dedicate much of our energy and resources in the education and formation of our people and of our leadership, lay and ordained. We live in a country where, because of the civil war, education has suffered greatly.

We have also been through, and are going through, the process of autonomy as a church. Our struggle is to become more secure as we become more mature. It’s hard. We have to construct the base of our church, economically and in terms of leadership. All of this requires strong financial support. But I must say, that we should not be focused primarily on our finances, but on our energy and commitment as a missionary church, as a church in mission. With this energy we will be able to find economic strength, not the other way around.

What most concerns me, in the next five years, is to find and prepare persons, leadership, lay and ordained, to do the work we need to do, including the role of a bishop in the future. We need to grow in the numbers of prepared people providing leadership in our church. It is a very high priority. We have in this moment at least two people whom we count on heavily who will soon have to retire. We live with this deficiency.

One thing that has occurred, not easily, has been the development among us in the church of a stronger sense of solidarity, facility to work together with care and commitment. There is more stability in the church. And we have established, more or less, the structure we need to function as a diocese. I’m glad for both of these things. As we have established new areas of work in the church, we need to strengthen the resources that support this work. That is our challenge. We now work in six of the Departments [regional governmental districts] of the country, and hope to be present in all of the Departments in the future. One of my hopes is to be able to begin some work in the central and eastern part of our country, especially establishing a base in the city of San Miguel. The need is great.

RAB
For many years the Salvadoran Episcopal/Anglican Church has been the daughter of the English Church, and later the American Church. Now, in this time of autonomy, of being part of the newly formed Province of the Anglican Church of the Central Region of the American (IARCA), you are forging a new identity as a church. Can you share something of this new emerging identity, its challenges and hopes?

MB
One of the very powerful inheritances that I received is that the Episcopal Church here, during the twelve years of our internal conflict, played a very important role. It was a church deeply committed, helping in projects to benefit the poor and displaced with out being afraid of taking risks. I think of especially Padre Luis Serrano and his leadership at that time, as the principal figure in our church. I believe that this commitment of our church, although a small church, had an important national and international dimension.

In this time we need to take this inheritance and maintain it, because these days the voice of the Salvadoran Episcopal Church is always listened to. Under the weight of being a small church, our message is a national message, not merely a parochial one.

You asked me, Ricardo, about our use of the words Iglesia Episcopal/ Anglicana. We use this identity intentionally. If we use only the word "Episcopal" people are confused, since the conference of RC bishops here is El Salvador is called the Conferencia Episcopal. What helps us in our national identity is to use the word Anglican, indicating our roots as an Episcopal Church in the Anglican Communion. In reality we have two roots important to us. We were founded decades ago by the Church of England. Later in the 50’s we came under the jurisdiction of the Episcopal Church in the United States. So our heritage is from both sources, and both are important to us. So we use the name Iglesia Episcopal/ Anglicana.

RAB
Thank you, Martín for your reflections, and your willingness to speak frankly about your church and your country. I hope these comments will help people understand more deeply the reality in which you and your people are passing.

MB
Gracias, Ricardo for the opportunity to share what is on my heart and mind.

 

Richard Bower is President of La Fundación Cristosal, Inc. He is an Episcopal priest whose ministry has included serving as dean of St. Paul’s Cathedral in Syracuse, New York. He is also a member of the Episcopal Church Publishing Company’s board of directors (ECPC publishes "The Witness").

Related Links

Learn more about Fundación Cristosal at their home page:
http://www.cristosal.org/

For related content, check out:

"The Land Without Indians is Worthless" from the January/February 2001 issue of The Witness, which discusses the failure of land reform efforts in El Salvador, at:

http://www.thewitness.org/archive/janfeb2001/elsalvador.html

"A ‘Natural’ Disaster?" from the April 2001 issue of The Witness, which examines the El Salvadoran earthquake in the context of the political ecology of developing countries, at:

http://www.thewitness.org/archive/april2001/

"San Romero de las Americas" from the June 2000 issue of The Witness, a reflection on the 20th anniversary of the assassination of Archbishop Oscar Romero, at:

http://thewitness.org/archive/june00/june.shorttakes.html